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02/05/2009 8:39 am
Mary Rice b 1843 Clonallon, Co Down
I am trying to research my gr-gr-gr-grandmother Mary Rice. She was born on Mar 22 1843 in Clonallon Co Down to Edward Rice & Mary ?McKeown. Mary married Hugh McCann in Dunipace Stirlingshire. Does anyone have any information on her ancestors or siblings?
Much appreciated.
02/05/2009 9:56 am
#1
Mary Rice
The family are on the 1861 census living at Dunipace
Edward is aged 43 born Ireland
Mary (Wife) 37 " "
Mary Daughter 18 " "
Margaret Daughter11 " "
Helen Daughter 7 " "
Ann Daughter 2 born Glasgow
1859 RICE ANN F MARYHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
1881 RICE MARY MCEWAN F 54 CUMBERNAULD /DUNBARTON
Mary's death cert Says she was the daughter
Of Alex Mcewan Labourer
Mother Susan
1886 RICE EDWARD M 66 CUMBERNAULD /DUNBARTON
Edwards says he was the son of
John Rice
No mothers name given
Edwards grandson Hugh Mcann was present.
02/05/2009 10:27 am
#2
Mary Rice
Also a daughter Susan born 1861 Dunipace
1861 RICE SUSAN F DUNIPACE /STIRLING
This looks like the family in 1881
but it is the first time son Edward has shown up in any of the census records with them.
Have found a birth for this Edward and his parents are listed as
John Rice and Bridget Mcguire(It looks like)so wonder if he is a nephew and not a son would explain him not being on any other census with the family.
1855 RICE EDWARD M BATHGATE /WEST LOTHIAN 662/00 0044
Marriages
16/10/1853 RICE JOHN BRIDGET MCGUIRE/FR1135 M Bathgate /WEST LOTHIAN
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Edward RICE M 60 M Ireland
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Mary RICE M 50 F Ireland
Rel: Wife
Edward RICE M 25 M Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Annie RICE M 22 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Susan RICE U 19 F Denny, Stirling, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Coal Pit Labourer ?
John RICE 3 M Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland
Rel: Son
William RICE 1 M Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland
02/05/2009 10:32 am
#3
Mary Rice
Field Value
Type Marriages
Date Of Marriage 01/11/1841
Husband Firstname EDWARD
Husband Surname RICE
Husband Townland / Street
Husband Occupation
Husband Age FA
Husband Denomination Roman Catholic
Husband Marital Status
Husband Father Firstname N/R
Husband Father Surname RICE
Husband Father Occupation
Husband Mother Firstname
Husband Mother Surname
Husband Witness Firstname PETER
Husband Witness Surname BUTTERFIELD
Wife Firstname MARY
Wife Surname MCKONE
Wife Townland / Street
Wife Occupation
Wife Age FA
Wife Denomination Roman Catholic
Wife Marital Status
Wife Father Firstname
Wife Father Surname MCKONE
Wife Father Occupation
Wife Mother Firstname
Wife Mother Surname
Wife Witness Firstname MARGARET
Wife Witness Surname BUTTERFIELD
Denomination
Comment œ1 0 0.
Address1 CLONALLON Roman Catholic
Address2 NEWRY & MOURNE
Address2 CLONALLAN WARRENPOINT
Address4 CO DOWN
01/05/2011 3:19 am
#4
My grandfather was a decendent of John Rice and Bridget McGuire.
My grandfather was John Rice. He was born in Pennsylvania and died in DuBois, PA.
Here is what I have on him:JOHN RICE , born 2/ 1890 in PA, married to Margaret Karpstein.
John’s Parents: Bernard (Barny) and Mary. Siblings: John, Daniel, Annie
Father: Barny (Bernard) - Born: Bathgate, Linlithgow West Lothian, Scotland on Nov. 22, 1860. It seems him came to the US around1885.
Mother: Mary Hiller There is a record of a Mary Hiller who came over from Glasgow Scotland in 1884. She was born in 1872., and came to the U.S. in 1884 – 1886, making her about 12 – 14 years old at the time. She and Barny married in 1889. Grandpa Rice was born in Pennsylvania in 1890.
There is also a record of a Mary Hiller from Ireland born Aug. 1865. Both her parents were born in Ireland.
Other records show that Barny married another “Mary” in 1898. (This may be a typo or his first wife may have died.)
Barny’s Parents:
John Rice and Bridget McGuire Rice.
Mother: Bridget McGuire was born Oct. 23, 1836 in Dundee Angus Scotland.
Her parents were James Patrick McGuire (1801) and Ann Gibson(1805). James Patrick (Bernard) and Ann were married Sept. 19, 1831 in Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland. They lived in Parish: Glasgow St Mungo, Springburn address,; County Lanarkshire. When she was 14, she was an apprentice cotton starcher.
Bridget McGuire married John Rice on Oct. 16, 1853. She was 17 and he was 29.
(6/10/1853 RICE JOHN BRIDGET MCGUIRE/FR1135 M Bathgate /WEST LOTHIAN)
Father: John Rice was born in Ireland in 1824.
John Rice’s siblings were: Edward born 1855 in W Lothian (662/00 0044), Margaret, and John.
Parents:
Father: John Rice, born 1801 in Ireland, St. Thomas, Liverpool parish, Lancashire,
Mother: unknown
Siblings: Margaret and Hannah.
Somewhere between 1861 and 1871, John died.
Bridget remarried William Crossan somewhere before 1871 census (probably when Barny was about 5 or 6 years old) and they had more children: William and Patrick, George, MaryAnn, and Joseph.